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whether or not 10's looks better than 90's, it's worse because 00's was the best and 10's/20's are making the conscious decision to be worse than 00's while 90's didn't know 00's existed yet.

>>943 these generalist images suck because there's so much variation in each decade. sure there's some stylistic similarities but you cant tell me that ranma dna2 eva and ccs look the same when they all had stuff come out in the 90s

Right objectively looks cuter.

There's good things about both

I don't like the 90s style but I think mid 2000s is peak athetically speaking. 2010s and 2020s look very good too. But I prefer mid-2000s. I think pre-2000s the best style is from the 70s followed by 80s. However, this is generalizing too much, styles vary from studio to studio and depends on many factors. Demographics, genre, artists...

moe killed anime and all it's attempted at being interested. now you just look up what's airing this season and it's purest meh possible. they still make some attempts at not being hopeless once in a few years but it's not the same. it all looks cheaper, dumber and flat. irritating because every once in a while i want to scratch that itch of watching an interesting anime, but there are none that catch my attention anymore. so yeah moe is opposite of progress and quality. understandable, but would be more comfy if moefans didn't exist or were placed in a ghetto. joking. victory's yours, enjoy it. just ranting because can't get some free entertainment like i used to get when i was younger

>all it's attempted at being interested fix: all its attempts at being interesting

>>998 Is it really moe that's done that, though? To my mind, it's part of the homogenization of everything: anime has hit mainstream global popularity and now, like any other product on the market, must cater to the lowest common denominator and make as much revenue as possible (rather than achieving some artistic or aesthetic goal). Hence these character designs and artstyles that were created in a lab to get the highest ROI

>>1000 low iq bullshit. if you want to create art there's nothing that stops you. oh mom i hit the mainstream market! now i have to be a degenerate! no you don't. choice between art and money is yours, many spiritual artists prefer to be poor to preserve their art. anime hasn't degraded because of market or whatever you imagine, but because degenerates that make it prioritize money over everything else. there is no 'must'. there is only 'want'.

>>961 I really like 90s and 2000s both. The only aesthetic I tend to not be into is 80s and some early 90s stuff. I think I like the 2000s the most overall though, there's something so warm and inviting about how the stylizations of that decade, especially the closer you get to the y2k years.

>>1001 Ignoring incentive structures is the real bit of low IQ bullshit. Sure, you can elect to be a starving artist. That's not at all common and doesn't disprove the broader trend. In fact, by bucking it, it actually proves it. Somehow "muh moe" is a better explanation? It just passes the buck: why has moe gotten popular? It's not like everyone just lost their collective minds in 2012. It sells. It makes money.

>>1003 >Ignoring incentive structures is the real bit of low IQ bullshit. How exactly do I ignore them? >It sells. It makes money. Sure why not. It's shit and yeah it does sell. I don't care. There is no art in it. No thought. No anything. I'm sure they don't even make visuals nowadays, just a bunch of scripts and AI assistants. Sure they do draw some sprites, so what now? Anime is a very simple drawing style in comparison to drawing realistic pictures, so making cute girls look cute isn't an achievement at all. In 90s there was a significant challenge in making great visual. Now there isn't . Are you kidding me? Open the damn MAL. What's the most popular seasonal anime (Spring 2024)? 1. Demon Slayer 2. KonoSuba 3. Kaiju No. 8 4. Mushoku Tensei 5. That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime If my life depended on anime I'd be long dead. So yeah. It sells. Good for you. Keep raising funds, I mean, yeah, I don't care. Just don't say me crap like >must cater to the lowest common denominator and then >It sells. It makes money. it has nothing to do with my original statement. I probably wasn't clear enough about my understanding of moe, though. Moe killed anime not as a genre or art style, but as a general phenomenon of fanservice abuse for the sake of money. Basically just serve those silly dudes with some appealing females and they'll give you more money than there is in El Dorado. That's what moe truly is. New level of prostitution or whatever. Do you really not understand the irony? I just pick some random titles every 0.5-1.5 years to see what is trending nowadays, and everything I see is more or less a recursive copy of itself. There are not any new cues, no new characters, no new plots, no new ideas, nothing except different sorts of visuals. Made in Abyss was the last promising thing I've seen and it turned into some meaningless loli carnage, wtf. Stop trolling me with your silly statements that you have to turn your art into repetitive worthless bullshit for the sake of money! inb4 you blame artists No I don't.

>>1004 I'm not advocating for anything that I'm describing. This is just what I believe has more or less ruined anime. It sounds like we agree (since you define moe as chasing money through fanservice, which I think is a good definition). I'm not saying things have to be this way, either. Of course artists can make concerted efforts to put out decent work. I'm sure some are doing that right now. I'm just as dismayed as you are by the state of the industry at the moment--though I would say pretty much everything in the world is suffering from a fundamental lack of effort and creativity at the moment

>>1005

I just dotn care for anime anymore because the world i live in interesting enough.

>>1007 want!

>>1007 Thats mature!