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>>5126 no I've never watched paranoia 1.0, looks cyberpunk (just watched the trailer) >American Conspiracy: The Octopus Murders not going to watch a netflix shitshow sorry. can you tell me what's so cyberpunk about it please? did you ever read neuromancer? I'm planning to buy it but don't know if it's worth it

xhy did you delete your post?

>>5130 this shit is too frustrating. this guy doesn't want to watch a netflix thing, ok, whatever, but he then asks about neuromancer. he is trying to act arrogant but at the same time sounds like he read the wikipedia entry for cyberpunk 5 minutes ago AND assuming you don't like netflix for the shows they usually make (which in my opinion is unjustified in this case as it is an independent documentary. there is piracy if you don't like their drm) then why are you asking about a novel published by a penguin group imprint. I have no problem with mainstream literature, I did read a good chunk of gibson's works when I was in high school but if you want to act smug about it you should know "big literature" follows the same business logic as netflix. I can understand if someone doesn't like commodification, but this is incoherent I didn't want to take the bait (like I'm doing now) nor participate in this thread anymore two more recommendations, "the red spectacles", but only the first one, and another piece of surreal quasi-fiction cyberpunk; the book "survival of the richest" from the same author of "cyberia"

>>5133 haha you're talking to the same guy (who doesn't like n3tflix) because netflix is for normalfriends. but yeah you're right, even if cyberpunk is my favourite genre, I know little about it. you serm more acknowledgable then me. I didn't mean yo hurt you stay cyber!

please comeback I want to talk about cyberpunk with someone

>>5151 cyberpunk is cool i guess

>>5152 it is indeed

cyberpunk 2077 ruined the word cyberpunk on the internet. before cp2007 came out, when you went on the internet and typed the word cyberpunk, you had lots of different sites that talked about cyberpunk (blog, site, videos, etc...). after cp2077 is released, when you go on the internet and type cyberpunk: you now ONLY have results compared to cp2077. THIS IS ALL YOU HAVE!. when you do a cyberpunk search but not on cp2077, on all search engines (google, firefox, etc.) they think you want to search for cp2077 so they only give you that! and this on all pages.

what do you guys mean by cyberpunk? the late 20th century retrofuturistic aesthetics or the dystopian perspectives? and where is the limit? >>5134 I'm not a big fan of the genre, specially the "original authors". I guess it must have been different at the time, but now it just reads like regular science fiction, probably because of the influence they had on the genre at large. either way, did you consume any of the recommendations?

>>5165 >what do you guys mean by cyberpunk? the late 20th century retrofuturistic aesthetics or the dystopian perspectives? and where is the limit? retrofuturism the reuse of how the future may look like imagined by the past years (40', 50', 60'...) but now days. it doesn't have a limit, so we can put the cyberpunk era there but only easthetic. but nowdays it seems that a lot of people are mixing up cyberpunk and retrofuturism because of purple neon and holographic images. the cyberpunk is the distopic one where megacorporations have unfair power and wealth and the cheese pizzaunk' because of the people who are against this soceity and try to live in a harsh environnment. (don't forget the cyberspace and cyborg too). >>5134 >I'm not a big fan of the genre, specially the "original authors". I guess it must have been different at the time, but now it just reads like regular science fiction, probably because of the influence they had on the genre at large. either way, did you consume any of the recommendations? the first books are the base of the genre. but yeah, cyberpunk had is moment of celebrity but it died pretty fast I think. people only remember about cyberpunk because of the movie blade runner and the new br movie and cp2077. end of it no sorry I did not consume what you told me to watch (are you the same guy as >>5133?)

>>5166 I think the problem is that the dystopian angle has lost some of it's speculative character (to say it euphemistically) so all artists can do now is try to salvage the aesthetics; cyberpunk has become just another setting or background for regular action-romance-drama content man I love using the words "content" and "consume" for media. anyways, recommend me stuff

>>5176 >recommend me stuff neuromancer, blade runner, mon lisa overdrive, snow crasher, the title with samurai on it (I don't remember), cp2077 (just because it has the genre in the title but I don't recommend it really avoid it), deus ex, akira, psycho pass, texnolyze, ergo proxy. that's it for now. but you can search on your own by entering '[media] cyberpunk' on internet

here's a good blog on cyberpunk https://www.markeverglade.com/cyberpunk-book-author-blog

>>5165 >what do you guys mean by cyberpunk? People have always argued about this even as far back as the Usenet days. The only thing people ever agreed on was "high tech, low life." You had cyberpunk fiction and cyberpunk subculture which was always vague mostly computer programmers and haxx0rs who liked reading cyberpunk fiction. Nowadays, cyberpunk gets reduced to a vague neo-80s neon visual aesthetic but that's not necessary. A lot of Japanese cyberpunk like Pinokio 964 or Tetsuo The Iron Man weren't set in some synthwave neon dystopia and even the city in Bladerunner was modeled on what was then modern day Hong Kong. >cyberpunk has become just another setting or background for regular action-romance-drama content This. Its been hollowed out into just another social media "aesthetic" like cottagecore or whatever. Probably because we now live in a dystopia. All of our email traffic is stored by the NSA, terrorists are assassinated with stealth drones that fire blades at people and tear them to shreds. Just look at the war in Ukraine. Infantry can't move because they are always being spotted by drones constantly hovering over them. Everybody's carrying around a smartphone which collects everything from geolocation to heart rate and sends it off to gigantic big tech monopolies. We are living in a postmodern cyberpunk dystopia.

>>5242 reminder that the neon 80s easthetic is what what normalfags think about what cyberpunk is to them. they're mixing retrofuturism with real cyberpunk

*ruin the cyberpunk genre and name on internet*

>>5242 maybe it was mostly an aesthetic to begin with. if you read the "classic cyberpunk authors" so to speak, there is a fascination with the present and the near future precisely because there isn't {u,dys}topia, but a disintegration that produces opportunities for individuals to liberate themselves from society. this future isn't clean cities or healthy and educated people, but an urban environment free of social norms and expectations where you can work from home, watch porn, and have stuff implanted into your body it was only a couple of years later that some more authors declared the genre a dystopia. but even then, the majority still uses it as a celebration of technology and egoism. to the point many readers can end up finding dystopias unintended by the authors

>>5181 >Neuromancer Reading this book feels really weird and wacky like it was written in the future

>>5254 is it entertzining so far, isn't it?

>>5255 I'm not that other anon, I already read it It was hard to read, but it's certainly unique and influential

This is like saying that the average seasonal anime is in any way unique. It follows a formula that was the product of previous iterations and was itself iterated upon once it proved to be commercially successful.

>>5257 what do you mean, please 3xplain