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hey Hikarins. i want to talk about alternative browsers: which ones you like, which ones you dislike, which ones you think are interesting, whatever. we all know about Ungoogled Chromium, Librewolf and Pale Moon, so although discussion of those browsers is fine, i really wanna see some niche stuff. bonus points for browsers that function on the modern web or browsers that have weird designs or usecases. this is also a good opportunity to talk about projects that push away from Google's domination of the browser market through Chromium and their proxy Mozilla. my browser to start this thread is Basilisk. used to be owned by the Male Poon team but now is independent. runs a similar codebase to PM but has some modern technologies like WebRTC and such. from what i can tell it seems to function fine as a modern browser, and although it's lacking in extensions/themes it has the necessities like adblock, userscripts, etc. i'd consider this as pretty independent from Google/Mozilla as far as functioning browsers go since the codebase is based on old Firefox.
I've been using Tor Browser more than a decade with scripts disabled. You can do that nowadays by setting the default security level to "safest" through the shield icon in the browser bar. I don't really know what else is out there but this is what I use, and this is what I recommend everyone else to use as well.
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Thanks for the insight hikarin. I agree that Firefox is generally the best bet to be usable on the modern web, but it's nice to dream about a less shitty version of the modern web sometimes. Sucks that Pale Moon threw away their credibility to be furry spergs.
A bit unrelated, but do you have much experience with alternative webs? Things like Gopher, Gemini, Freenet, IPFS, etc? I like the idea of them and absolutely see the appeal but from my (limited) experience they're a bit too niche and often too limited to have much content. My idealistic cope fever dream is all the people of the "dissident web" (for lack of a better term) who use IRC and altchans and such to migrate off the clearweb into some sort of alternative internet protocol(s) but I know that will not happen. 
>>1666 I've been using gopher since before http took off. It's pretty nice. But hardly anyone hosts content on it. Freenet I've tried but I'm not really in a position to say whats on the network. Same for Gemini. Isn't Gemini the one that requires you load javashit and have to host the content of the pages you browse? I can't remember why but I stopped using it. I think it was because of pizza spam. IPFS I really like but the developers refuse to fix basic things about it like the fact that you have to store data in the datastore and on your local HDD. Meaning for every TB you give it you have to have 2TB. There is an option to prevent this but it has been broken for many years. Another big issue with IPFS is it really taxes your router/modem. I was running it for a week and it murdered my LAN. The router got so hot that it was shutting down due to the thousands of requests it was getting a second. The network is really unstable because of that. But I do like the idea in theory. The main issue with it is the developers and their attempts to turn it into yet another crypto scam instead of a real free encrypted network for data. They have many long time bugs they simply refuse to fix. Instead they've been courting big tech companies and trying to get them to use the software. They're going after the tech bro investment money instead of making something for everyone to use for free. Another big problem is new p2p protocols aren't taking off because users refuse to donate bandwidth+space. They're opting to use things like private torrent trackers instead. Which are stupid. I refuse to engage with those people because they're bad actors and don't follow the spirit of hacker ethics. They don't care about the data being free for everyone. All they care about is clout and money.
>>1669 you're wrong hikarin, gemini is basically just postmodern gopher with markdown instead of gopher syntax... and mandatory encryption
