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>What's wrong with a religious perspective? I resent that. Its not a religious perspective because there are plenty of secular NASA scientists who've never touched a human female that rationalize their unhealthy sexuality by feeding us some rationalist argument for it. I bet most of the no fap freaks aren't even religious.
Because religion is useless. I won't start a long tangent about my views on religion but I will simply say that I have no interest in it nor the scientific view of reality that NASA scientists believe in. Spirituality and religion are just thoughts that are made sacred and mystical and my thoughts are neither sacred nor mystical. I get along just fine without creating an imaginary realm of "spirit" in my life. These scientists that you talk about still have some ideas founded in religion even if they call themselves atheists. Just because some or most of the no fap freaks are secular doesn't mean that no fap itself isn't based in or inspired by religious ideas.
>The objects of your desire usually are outside of you, unless you're one of those freaks who jerks off in front of a mirror Like maybe only mainstream Christianity and Buddhism are explicitly anti-desire. Even then its pretty overblown. The whole "religion represses sexuality" meme.
The objects of my desire may be outside of me but the desire itself isn't. Am I receiving denpa signals or did this come from within me? The no fap freaks make it sound like I'm just a doll that gets assailed by thousands of desires per minute and that I need to ward them off or be consumed by them. In reality, I own my desires as much as I own my thoughts. I don't need spiritual training in order to do that, and I certainly don't need to repress myself.
>So if you take a bunch of chems and start seeing angels that tell you to rape and murder people with an axe you'd indulge in that? Drama aside the problem with human desire is it can never be satiated. We always want something and once we get it we end up disappointed and chase after something else. Porn is a good example. People search for the video they like, jerk off in like 30 seconds, feel shitty about themselves, and then start surfing for videos again. Rinse and repeat.
This is exactly the way that the no fap freaks frame desire. You're just like that guy who said that I should get AIDS. Apparently if I say that I don't want to become a nun, that can only mean that I jerk off every 30 seconds, take drugs, get penetrated anally, wear diapers and kill people with an axe. Maybe your criticisms are better aimed at the people who do these things rather than me who has never taken drugs, rarely looks at lewd images and has actually never wished to kill someone with an axe. Neither do I think you should aim it towards desire in general. In fact, desire is a pretty empty concept. The only thing that's for sure is that all living beings constantly have desires but you can desire an infinite number of things in an infinite number of ways. Why does it automatically have to translate into such insane hedonism? If I think that hedonism doesn't make me happy, it's not because I'm repressing myself, but because I never desired it in the first place. Unlike the no fap freaks, I don't care about making grand statements about how people should or shouldn't exist. All I'm saying is that I do whatever I want whenever I feel like it.